In my reply to Mr. Mohan's comment this is what I stated
Human is most superior being nature has evolved till date and he is one of the forms of Brahman and variegated manifestation of Brahman - who can think reason and understand the nature which is Brahman again - the sciences are the off shoots of extensive thinking, research and formulation of theories by human in his quest to truth and an attempt by the human to get control on nature both inner and outer - which till date he is unable to achieve. Say ultimately one day even if human conquers the nature what he has to do with it - try for internal peace and create external surroundings which will help the same or damage his own entity by misusing the same, and as on date history is in line with the second one. If Ramakrishna Paramahamsa has experienced and seen the superior force, what he did with that? Whether all others can exercise the same control even after getting the immense power or simply misuse so that this species is extinct even before the negative part of the nature engulfs us?
One of my best friends after reading this blog asked me some questions and the conversation in the chat is as follows
My friend(MF) : Man is God??
Me: Yes , Aham Brahmasmi
MF: So RK Paramahamsa discovered himself as Budhdha did long ago
Me: Yes
MF: If this is so we are made with a combination and once the combination is over we are converted into other (Law of conservation of mass)
Me: The combination will be over if we meddle too much with nature - and new combinations will follow as per external nature which is fingered
MF: So man's thoughts are controlled by his nature which he has not hold of. One who sees or gets hold of his nature realizes the truth
Me: Yes - ante sookshmam
Mr. Shyam's comments and my views
a. If this theory of yours gains currency and accepted then wickedness is a product of certain things which are not under the control of man. Isn't it easy for a evil doer to argue(a hypothetical proposition) that his doings are not his but some things beyond his control(provided this theory becomes very much acceptable in the likes of shariyat etc.,)
Qualities like wickedness , goodness are a thought far. The same thing at one point of time seems to be good and in other context evil - You can also refer your RK sir's comment in Kotta Bhetala Kathalu - Joseph Vankayala the Achiever, regarding morals and social construct which is more apt and fitting explanation - It is more simple "You do or don't do - not that it is good or bad - and not doing is one way of doing things"
I understand "Shariyat" is Muslim law which is dependent on a person who is occupying the supreme seat in Muslim religion - If you start discussing of that religion again it is an ocean - It is his discretion to decide on things whether it is acceptable to all or somebody say it is biased and simply it is view of the mob again - every time majority wins except for a few unconventional cases.
b. If the theory of Ajay Shukla was also ultimate then there are many a infinite "space" in this ever expanding space(thanks to big bang) and scope of same life form with same thoughts is imminent
If you mean to say that we are not alone in the universe -then there are all probabilities that we may not be alone -It is just a matter of time till we find them
If you are talking about reincarnation we will discuss on it in the further posts
c. When you realize your nature or you are in a position to separate yourself from your nature do we acquire supernatural powers?
There is nothing supernatural - Everything is natural after you understand the reason - Even immense power is natural
eg: If you cannot understand the trick you call him baba who has supernatural powers - If you know it is trick you call him magician - If you know the trick you can be a baba to persons who don't understand and you will be a magician to people who know it is a trick-
likewise varied examples can be given for this
d. If in this life man cannot get to his nature man and his nature are separated at only one time death? isn't it
Man is a part of nature - and you cannot separate yourself from nature even after death and even death is natural
We will go back to science advancement in the next episode again
To be contd.......
Human is most superior being nature has evolved till date and he is one of the forms of Brahman and variegated manifestation of Brahman - who can think reason and understand the nature which is Brahman again - the sciences are the off shoots of extensive thinking, research and formulation of theories by human in his quest to truth and an attempt by the human to get control on nature both inner and outer - which till date he is unable to achieve. Say ultimately one day even if human conquers the nature what he has to do with it - try for internal peace and create external surroundings which will help the same or damage his own entity by misusing the same, and as on date history is in line with the second one. If Ramakrishna Paramahamsa has experienced and seen the superior force, what he did with that? Whether all others can exercise the same control even after getting the immense power or simply misuse so that this species is extinct even before the negative part of the nature engulfs us?
One of my best friends after reading this blog asked me some questions and the conversation in the chat is as follows
My friend(MF) : Man is God??
Me: Yes , Aham Brahmasmi
MF: So RK Paramahamsa discovered himself as Budhdha did long ago
Me: Yes
MF: If this is so we are made with a combination and once the combination is over we are converted into other (Law of conservation of mass)
Me: The combination will be over if we meddle too much with nature - and new combinations will follow as per external nature which is fingered
MF: So man's thoughts are controlled by his nature which he has not hold of. One who sees or gets hold of his nature realizes the truth
Me: Yes - ante sookshmam
Mr. Shyam's comments and my views
a. If this theory of yours gains currency and accepted then wickedness is a product of certain things which are not under the control of man. Isn't it easy for a evil doer to argue(a hypothetical proposition) that his doings are not his but some things beyond his control(provided this theory becomes very much acceptable in the likes of shariyat etc.,)
Qualities like wickedness , goodness are a thought far. The same thing at one point of time seems to be good and in other context evil - You can also refer your RK sir's comment in Kotta Bhetala Kathalu - Joseph Vankayala the Achiever, regarding morals and social construct which is more apt and fitting explanation - It is more simple "You do or don't do - not that it is good or bad - and not doing is one way of doing things"
I understand "Shariyat" is Muslim law which is dependent on a person who is occupying the supreme seat in Muslim religion - If you start discussing of that religion again it is an ocean - It is his discretion to decide on things whether it is acceptable to all or somebody say it is biased and simply it is view of the mob again - every time majority wins except for a few unconventional cases.
b. If the theory of Ajay Shukla was also ultimate then there are many a infinite "space" in this ever expanding space(thanks to big bang) and scope of same life form with same thoughts is imminent
If you mean to say that we are not alone in the universe -then there are all probabilities that we may not be alone -It is just a matter of time till we find them
If you are talking about reincarnation we will discuss on it in the further posts
c. When you realize your nature or you are in a position to separate yourself from your nature do we acquire supernatural powers?
There is nothing supernatural - Everything is natural after you understand the reason - Even immense power is natural
eg: If you cannot understand the trick you call him baba who has supernatural powers - If you know it is trick you call him magician - If you know the trick you can be a baba to persons who don't understand and you will be a magician to people who know it is a trick-
likewise varied examples can be given for this
d. If in this life man cannot get to his nature man and his nature are separated at only one time death? isn't it
Man is a part of nature - and you cannot separate yourself from nature even after death and even death is natural
We will go back to science advancement in the next episode again
To be contd.......
Point of seeing superior force by Ramakrishna Paramahamsa or earlier by Budha..
ReplyDeleteIs nothing but understanding the Nature..
There is no question of Conquering the Nature from where you are evolved.
After the Big Bang and human existense started.... Man could not able to understand the nature properly causing all the damage..
A better understanding of Nature by Ramakrishna Paramahamsa or Budha revealed somany truths to the mankind which we neither understood nor follow then where question arises of Conquering Nature..
u are a molecule of a substance(Nature) Basically try retain your properties instead of thinking of becoming substance or surpass it by loosing own properties..
This is what is called wickedness rather clearly human behaviour.
There is everything in this nature. Huv you visualise, analyse, learn, and implement is what matters..
Anna - you are fantastic
ReplyDeleteI differ you at one point "This is what is called wickedness rather clearly human behavior"
Always higher energy/power attracts lower ones towards it and the lower ones lose their properties to become one with the higher one
It is not wickedness - It is the theory of nature which every atom/molecule tries
Even human tries to dissolve himself with that higher energy source in nature - which we can simply say eternal peace/bliss/moksha
We visualize, analyze, learn and implement to seek this simple thing