రాంబాబు కి చిరాకేసి విసుగొచ్చింది
అసలు ఏదీ వ్రాయకూడదు అనుకున్నాను. చెప్పడం, వినడం రెండిటి మీద bore కొట్టింది.
ఎవడికీ చెప్పడానికి ఏమీ లేదు. Eternal truths అందరికి ఒకటే. ఎవడికి అర్ధమైన ప్రపంచాన్ని వాడు చెబుతున్నాడు. ఎవడి అనుభవాన్ని వాడు చెబుతున్నాడు. ఎవడి ఆవేశాన్ని వాడు వ్యక్త పరుస్తున్నాడు. భౌతికమైన ప్రపంచంలో ఎవడికి వాడిదే నిజం. అంతకన్నా నిజం లేదు. ఎవడికి వాడికి - వాడికున్న శక్తిని బట్టి, తెలివిని బట్టి - మారుతున్న ప్రపంచంలో మారుతున్న పరిస్థితులకి తగ్గట్టుగా మార్చుకుంటూ - ఇదింతే. ఇదే విషయాన్ని ఎన్నోసార్లు మాటలు మార్చి చెబుతూనే వచ్చాను. ఎందుకంటే నాకు అర్ధమైన ప్రపంచం అది కాబట్టి. అందుకే అసలు ఏదీ వ్రాయకూడదు అనుకున్నాను.
కానీ రాంబాబు గాడి నిరాశ నిండిన కవిత చూశాక నాకు ఎక్కడో ఏదో కెలికినట్టయింది. వాడు ఎన్నో సార్లు నన్ను emotional stress కి గురి చేశాడు. వాడితో నాకున్నది అదో love hate relationship . వాడిలో నాకు నచ్చినవాటి కంటే నచ్చనివే అన్నీను. కానీ ఎందుకో వాడి గురించి పట్టించుకోకూడదు అనుకున్నా, నేను react అవుతాను. వాడంటే అదో soft corner. క్రొత్త సంవత్సరం మొదలైంది. వీడు మొదలుపెట్టాడు. ఏదీ తెలియని వాడు కాదు. తెలిసినవాడే. ఎన్నో situations ని నా కంటే బాగా handle చెయ్యగలడు. మరెందుకో వాడికి విసుగు. వాడి frustration కి vent లేక ఈ సమస్యలేమో.
నా observation ఏంటంటే ప్రపంచమంతా ఒక రకమైన unrest లో ఉంది. Capitalists ,middle class intellectuals , proletariat , అందరూ ఒక రకమైన చిరాకులో బ్రతుకుతున్నారు. అందుకే రకరకాల ఈ agitations, repressions, peace talks. ఇది planetary constellations తాలూక affect లేదా over driven capitalism తాలూక affect ఏదైనా అవ్వొచ్చు. ఇది ఈ unrest ఎక్కడో ఒక చోట volcano లాగ బద్దలవుతుంది. మనం యుద్ధానికి యుద్ధానికి మధ్యనున్న సంధి కాలంలో చాలా శాంతిలో బ్రతుకుతున్నాం. ఇది ఎన్నాళ్ళో ఎవడికీ తెలియదు. కలియుగానికి అంతమైతే నాకు తెలిసి అప్పుడే లేదు.
ఇప్పుడున్న ప్రపంచంలో ఈ share markets పతనాలు, funds misappropriations చేసే నాయకులు , దేశాన్ని తాకట్టు పెట్టి, తార్చుకు తినే మహాత్ములు , వాళ్ళు vangaurdsలా తయారు చేసిన economy, ఇలాటి unrest లో ఉన్న economy తయారు చేసిన situations లో బ్రతుకుతున్నప్పుడు విసుగు తప్పదు. మరి ఇలాటి పనులు చేస్తున్న వాళ్లకి మంచి చెడు విచక్షణ అనవసరం. వారి స్వార్ధం, సుఖం, అహం చూసుకోవడం తోనే సరిపోతుంది. ఒక రకంగా చూస్తే అది సహజమనిపిస్తుంది. ఎందుకంటే మంచి చెప్పడం, వినడం బాగానే ఉంటుంది. ఆచరించడానికి ముడుకులు జారిపోతాయి. Society ని ఒక equilibriumలో ఉంచుతుంది. మంచి తాలూకు dish చప్పగా ఉంటుంది - రుచి పచి ఉండదు - కానీ ఆరోగ్యానికి మంచిది. చెడు చెయ్యడంలో ఒక kick ఉంటుంది. మంచి మసాలా దట్టించిన dish లాగ. నోటికి రుచి - ఆరోగ్యం నాశనం. చెడు ఎప్పడు shortcut solution లాగ కనపడుతుంది కాని అది ఒక long term లో ఒక epidemic లాగ మారిపోతుంది. ఎవడైనా general గా palatable గా లేని చప్పిడి కూడు కంటే ఆరోగ్యం నాశనం అయినా మసాలా నే opt చేస్తాడు. చెడు తాలూక fundamental ఇదే.
రాంబాబుకి చెప్పడం వరకు అయితే ok . కానీ ఈ universal principle ఒప్పుకుంటే ఎవడి శక్తిని బట్టి వాడు దోచుకొండిరా అన్నట్టుంటుంది. మరేమి చేద్దాం.
నాకు అనిపించిన ఒక positive solution . ఎప్పుడూ సొంత లాభం చూసుకోవడమే కాకుండా, ఎవడికున్న పరిధిలో వాడు సమాజానికి ఎంత మంచి చెయ్యగలిగితే అంత మంచిది. అప్పుడు ప్రతీ వాడికి పక్కవాడికి సేవ చెయ్యడమనే avocation ఉండి, సాయం పొందినవాడి తాలూకు పొగడ్తలో ఒక తృప్తి రావడం మొదలెడుతుంది. అదేదో చిరంజీవి గాడి సినిమా టాగోర్, స్టాలినో గుర్తులేదు అలాగన్నమాట. కొంత సమాజం కూడా బాగుపడుతుంది. అంతా materialistic గా పొతే personal గా లాభం ఉంటుంది కానీ unrest ని బాగా expedite చేసి civil wars కి మన వంతు సహకారం అందించినట్టుంటుంది.
ఇది ఎవడికి వాడే ఏది చెయ్యాలో తెల్చుకోవలిసిన క్షణం. ఇదీ నిజం.
my life is critically influenced by three environments which made me "me". One such was the one of kamesh &co. From that point my journey traversed between four types of people.
ReplyDelete1. people who dont know anything and accept life in its form whatever
2. people with half knowledge. In this kind we have two sub types. one subtype is with a sure cunningness and the other one is simple boastfulness.
3.people who know the basic essence of life and use it for their gain in full
4. people who realize the truth and try to cruise with sincerity and integrity. and these are the kind who slip into serious disturbance seeing the plight of people. these are the people who realize human race seldom realizes the real essence of life. these are the people who burn in them selves and finally at point resolve them selves into a shell and just watch the proceedings. some try to shout and make a legitimate point of living a life thats called life. tragically their voice is lost in millions of voices of the above three types
and as far as renaissance is considered in my view never such thing happened. whatever we call renaissance its an attempt by the fourth category which was taken over by the third category in a smart way every time.
the third category is the most powerful since ages. systems processes machinations keep changing only to remain under control under control of this category which puts the second category for its defense in politics and other sector. and the prey the first category.
so unrest is a period where the third category takes a time to come out with more modified methods to sustain themselves for a longer run. in this period the fourth category tries frustrates shouts and finally rests
rk - essence of history well said - great
ReplyDeleteso if this is the truth and every one is engrossed in their own world, whats the basic purpose of life? I am always bothered. why we are doing all this which is very much repetitive? basic needs as well as basic desires more often remain same. at the finale noting matters. isnt it? i read both yelanaga and this blog. i read sirs classification. and i read all those books that are mentioned in these blogs as well as a lot by people like you. i remain clueless. even gautama buddhas findings never interested me. are we contributing to the cause we are evolved for? basically what for we are created?is this a matrix? are we controlled by some extraordinary? why such evil thoughts? why such mayhem? why such hatred? why ?
ReplyDeleteDear Shyam
ReplyDeleteThe things what I spelt out in the post are on the materialistic plane. But the questions you asked I think the answers lie in spiritual plane. With my limited knowledge I will just try to explain this. With this I am not trying to be prophetic but just I wanted to see “what is my understanding of these things” after all reading, thinking, feeling, understanding.
People who don’t know what they want exactly out of life, they run after all materialistic things and spend their life in angst and the result is hatred & mayhem. If you attain internal peace and extend the same to the universe outside it spreads love and peace.
What is this universe?
To answer this question, we take the help of science or philosophy. Science starts with exploration of external nature i.e. universe and tries to correlate it to the internal whereas Vedanta/philosophy starts with internal search of man, his mind and consciousness and correlates it with external nature i.e. universe.
Atomic physics provided the scientists with the first glimpses of the essential nature of things. But physicists were now dealing with a non-sensory experience of reality and, like the mystics; they had to face the paradoxical aspects of this experience. From then on, therefore, the models and images of modern physics became akin to those of Eastern philosophy. The basic oneness of the universe is not only the central characteristic of the mystical experience, but is also one of the most important revelations of modern science "(Extract from “Tao of physics”)
It gives way to the term “Universe of experience” which is in two broad categories objective and subjective.
What is man?
In this objective world it will be the human where as if we go subjective all through the physical world runs that unknown content, which must surely be the stuff of our consciousness which still, needs to be discovered/ revealed. It is termed by Vedanta as Atman the un-destructive soul.
"In contrast to the mystic, the physicist begins his inquiry into the essential nature of things by studying the material world. Penetrating into ever deeper realms of matter, he has become aware of the essential unity of all things and events. More than that, he has also learnt that he himself and his consciousness are an integral part of this unity. Thus the mystic and the physicist arrive at the same conclusion; one starting from the inner realm, the other from the outer world. The harmony between their views confirms the ancient Indian wisdom that Brahman, the ultimate reality, is identical to Atman, the reality within." "(Extract from “Tao of physics”)
What is his destiny? If you say the soul as un-destructive, what to do then? What will be our goal?
“Each soul is potentially divine. The goal of life is to manifest this divinity within by controlling nature, external (through physical sciences, technology, and socio-political processes) and internal (through ethical, aesthetic, and religious processes).Do this either by work, or worship, or psychic control, or philosophy-by one, or more, or all of these-and be free. Time, space, and causation are like the glass through which the Absolute is seen. … In the Absolute there is neither time, space, nor causation.’ –Swami Vivekananda
This science and technique for realizing the true glory of man, followed with scientific thoroughness and detachment by the sages of the Upanishads, and revalidated by a succession of spiritual experimenters down the ages from Buddha to Ramakrishna, is glowingly revealed in one of the immortal verses of the Upanishad:
"Hear, ye children of immortal bliss, even ye that reside in higher spheres! I have found the Ancient One, who is beyond all darkness, all delusion; knowing Him alone, you shall be saved from death over again."
dear kamesh
ReplyDeletei post here an extract of a discussion between my colleague and me.
all of us are potentially divine and the purpose of life is to utilize this divinity to realize and uncover the unknown. In this context our search leads us to the unknown because of whom we are here. through ages this search is on and we are carrying it. few are those who realized this and discovered the ultimate.
so what i understand is people fail to realize this and destroy the divine element in them. this leads to chaos.
now i fail to understand this knowing him ....is the end? being free..is it the finality?are we made to search the supreme by some force? is this the sole reason of evolution of a far superior life form like man? now i want to know whether this life form is an unknown entity to the supreme? if no has he created us? where from this divinity comes? nature?....
sir
ReplyDeletedoes the concept of a theory opposing god(saitan) exist? is that the reason for this
restlessness?is that force an equivalent force? what i mean to say soul with potential evil also may exist.
Dear Mohan
ReplyDeletehappy to hear from you after long time
i think i already expressed my opinion regarding good, bad in this blog - you can check from the earlier posts and comments - yes positive and negative is there but negative doesn't mean evil. when we come to materialistic grounds which is good for human in present environmental condition is good and what is detrimental to the human species is evil.Even the present human species's own misdoings create a situation where this species goes extinct that is not the end of the universe. Our species in its present shape is far more superior species produced till date. The post above is relevant to the present human species in its materialistic world. You and me are god as well as saitan.
Dear RK
Even knowing him (the nature), being free is not the finality.it is a never ending phenomenon. My opinion is if you are trying at present to achieve happiness by trying all material things - the happiness you achieve through striking chord with higher energy source/god in this nature will be more blissful. You are supreme, you are divine, you are nature, you are siva. Identify this - Sivoham
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ReplyDeleteits in a rage and fierce mood i wrote the above comments. later i found them to be irrelevant as well as foolish. one thing i wanted to convey was collective effort of understanding was given away to individual pursuit and whims and fancies. by saying primitive living was the most liberal i meant there was mutual cooperation taking into account every one in the community. everything changed in the course of 15000 years. we are million times far better than the earliest of our kind in terms of resource utility .but we are way behind in terms of attitude sharing understanding and cooperation. we are divided by narrower thoughts and actions. this limits our thought process and hence a confusion.
ReplyDeletetrying to give my comment on two brilliant questions posed to rk by his students in the next post
ReplyDelete1. if everything is already discovered or unearthed by earlier civilizations what we need to do nothing except to follow or is there anything we can do?
2. if anything we talk regarding destiny or something if the only answer we can give is in spiritual plane then is there any purpose of life in materialistic plane?
i felt these questions are exuberant at the same time intriguing and just fired my thought line which resulted in an out pour of words while talking to rk - just trying to pen down some. thnx to prodigies of ashram
PART I
ReplyDeletethis blog writers influence words and association has changed me completely. in fact a lot in me what my students consider as something extra ordinary is a capability enhanced with the association and influence of this man. one of my most cherished dreams is to see this man teaching my students what he taught me rather directly or indirectly. whether he agrees or not he is one master mind with lot of wisdom where we can learn and find ourselves. Its with such idea and hope this blog was started.
over the few months a lot was written and discussed. the hits of 9000 and above suggest people do follow this. ya! this is not a kolaveri di or some govind tiwari's antics to get a phenomenal lakh hits. but this has its own following and effective demand.
this is my final comment on this series!if it appears very foolish ignore it. if it appears too amateurish laugh away
friends! my association with lot of people and intellectuals lead me to one point. every one is restless. every one is angry. every one is dissatisfied. every one is in disagreement.
this every one includes me.
gregor mendel darwin copernicus aryabhatta aryans chinese jews prophet mohammed newton einestin ...........they were never restless. they were never ambitious. they were never angry.they found something that gave us more days to roll on. a tiger remained a tiger all these ages. a mosquito remained a mosquito all these ages. only we kept changing. communication(what ever language) religion(what ever god) basic needs and certain institutions( like marriage) remained same through out world and evolved as per the necessities of the day. all this was done with a lot of patience and serenity. thats why they keep us strong even today.
we have done nothing but improvisation. to put in a few we converted wheel into a lot of modes fire into finer uses mud into decor wood into combo etc., particularly this gen has done nothing in particular. why? why are not we like our predecessor. from one history book i came to know that leisure time was spent on research. to explore . to uncover.
but now!
PART II
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we are now indulged in exploring ourselves? immediately questions shoot up? do you want us to leave our families? do you think all people were contributing during copernicus or aryabhatta?
NO. but who discovered fire? who discovered uses of water? who discovered cultivating fields? who discovered language?
a collective effort. but as innocence of the civilization lapsed into darkness cooperation turned into jealousy anger greed and power lust.
it was left to few to carry on the burden of discovering the uncovered. why? because we are bestowed with a responsibility to make this place better.why? we keep returning! am i supporting reincarnation? perhaps. like a battery runs a toy some thing is running us. not heart. i mean the entire human system. once we are not in a position to carry the system our energy is shifted to another ....this we will know when we close this life chapter.
primitive society was the best liberal society till date. yes. even historians support it. since no inequalities no caste no creed.but as we went ahead with improvisations certain individuals drifted from the aim towards personal desires. the course split into two directions. sadly the one who was to improvise declined with ages. the negative shades were that powerful they attracted more and more people. those who were to make this a better place declined day by day.
the second group utilization he improvisations in the most opportune way to get their desires fulfilled. kings later politicians people today also people danced to their tunes. we forgot the objective of improvisation or atleast assisting improvisation.
we forgot the essence of life. we need not be darwin we need not be copernicus..atleast we need to be some use in some way. how?
by being happy. by being content. by being pleasant by worshiping nature( the earliest of any religious script worshipped nature).by enjoying rain. by being with others. no harm in having families. no harm in having your own life. the harm is in forgetting your contribution to improvisation. at least be a part of improvisation in different ways. by taking the improvisations to those who dont know. try to put up your own views on governance. avoid plastic. conserve water. spend some time with vedas. learn about stars. this you can do with your daily chores.dont think will this improve? dont think it will do better? do it for yourself.
by the time iam writing this my student asked how i justify that we are not carrying improvisations? yes. a ball point pen is understandable. but by breaking the heart of mother earth and excavating gold and then making a gold pen for a status symbol is unpardonable. when millions starve out side how can one digest buckets of food without concern?
we now dont have concern for next gen. and remember for every one dead, energy shifts into a womb immediately. we are coming back to the very place we left.
i believe we have to make this place worth living. this is our home. this is where we grew. this is where you spoke (an improvisation our predecessors has given us) this is where we wrote(improvisation)this is where we ate(improvisation) this is where we marry(improvisation)this is where we die to come back. when we come back we may not remember the previous operating system but the environment remains the same. now where are the new improvisations?
thnx rk for posting again
ReplyDeleteRk deleted the comments after posting - I requested him to re-post - he posted but i didn't read them. After writing my post as-23 - I just came back went through the comments by rk - surprisingly the core of the theme in the second comment forms the basis of Purpose of life in materialistic plane. rk is a great teacher with emotions. i never understood this person even when i was with him in icwai in the first lap- even i almost forgot the days i was with him and somehow all those happenings are out of my memory which i regret now. i have become big introvert at that point of time and i was just belching my opinions not trying what anybody around me was telling me. after that i went into isolation into my concrete jungle and regular domestic life with my family. after a long gap when after coming to vizag when i came in contact with him for the second time in life -the way he persuaded me and given me my blog to vent my thoughts -so many times i asked him how you understood that i think too much and can write something - he never replied and i don't remember what i spoke to him when we are together for the first time. now i am spellbound with the history lessons he is giving me through mobile and the views he expresses and fire he emits -i am very grateful to my friend rk for all he has given me and i am very happy to be associated with him in life.
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